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Changeset 960 - tvdb - 2008/03/30 16:44 This parser enables banners and images for each episode etc. If I select the "refresh all" with this parser to get all the new stuff, will it only refresh the TV Series info or all of the video information? Showcenters 1000g/200/250HD Popcorn Hour A-100
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Re: Changeset 960 - tvdb - 2008/03/30 16:59 It will only refresh your TV details. Existing TV details are first removed, then updated with details from TVDb. Player : Netgear EVA700 & Popcorn A-100 (081106)
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Re: Changeset 960 - tvdb - 2008/03/30 19:13 OK.. did the refresh...

With respect this parser..

1) At first it did not pick up the Outer Limits (1995) named that way for the epguides parser. Removing the (1995) fixed it and it picked it up. However, for this series, it only grabbed a single actor (same one) for every episode.

2) While it picked up the year for some (Outer Limits, Terminator, etc) it did not for others (Star Trek, Twilight Zone, etc). It appears to have done a great job with everything else.

3) Outer Limits... it picked up "Deja Vu" as "The Sandkings" .. can't imagine how that happened.
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Re: Changeset 960 - tvdb - 2008/03/30 19:56 The data at TVDb is still in it's infancy. They have made quite a few changes recently which I why I decided to hold onto my parser until things had settled down a bit. One of the things currently being discussed is the naming of series with the same name such as 'Outer Limits'. You may find that in a few weeks they change it to 'Outer Limits (2005)'. There is also only one actor stored there so that's all you get.

All users of this parser are encouraged to join TVDb.com and add/improve data for all series they are interested in. This way we support their work and improve the results returned for other SwissCenter users.

How did the banner work out on your NTSC screen?

I don't see an 'Outer Limits' episode named 'Deja Vu', but there's two 'The Sandkings'. Nothing stopping you from correcting this if you know it's wrong.
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Re: Changeset 960 - tvdb - 2008/03/30 20:12 Pernod wrote:
How did the banner work out on your NTSC screen?
OMG I didn't even notice this and I'll tell you why. On my televisions (both LCD And SD) the banners are TINY.. I'm talking so small that I didn't even notice they were there at all.

I don't see an 'Outer Limits' episode named 'Deja Vu', but there's two 'The Sandkings'. Nothing stopping you from correcting this if you know it's wrong.
Correcting it online? I'll take a look.

Later... Deja Vu is season 5 episode 16 and this is correct online. For some reason, the parser picked it up as Season 1 Episode 1

Could the symbols in the file name be screwing it up?

D:/TELEVISION/SERIES/Outer Limits/Déjà Vu.mpg
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Re: Changeset 960 - tvdb - 2008/03/30 20:31 the banners are TINY..
Hmm, I was afraid of that. They're not too bad on a PAL screen. Am open to suggestions on where they can be used more effectively.

The symbols in 'Déjà Vu' could be the problem. Could you post a log of a scan on just this episode? If you had S05E16 in the filename you should be okay. The problem could be with TVDb but the log extract should confirm where the problem is.
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Re: Changeset 960 - tvdb - 2008/03/30 21:38 Pernod wrote:
Am open to suggestions on where they can be used more effectively
Where isn't the problem... they need to be bigger ..

The symbols in 'Déjà Vu' could be the problem. Could you post a log of a scan on just this episode? If you had S05E16 in the filename you should be okay. The problem could be with TVDb but the log extract should confirm where the problem is.
OK.. I removed and re-scanned the file. Uploading the log where the file was added. Here's a screen shot of the result (you can see the file name simply doesn't match the title at all). Of course, the cure is to manually enter the season and episode and it will pick up the correct info.



File Attachment:
File name: log.zip
File size:2825 bytes
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Re: Changeset 960 - tvdb - 2008/03/30 22:07 Pernod wrote:
The data at TVDb is still in it's infancy.
Don't really understand why it isn't picking up the years for series such as Star Trek and the Twilight Zone while it would for others. The air dates appear on tvdb and appear to be correct.
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Re: Changeset 960 - tvdb - 2008/03/30 22:20 Uh oh... I was editing the Star Trek series for the date and noticed that it got every single episode in season 1 wrong (it appears to get back on track with seasons 2 and 3). Take a look at this screen shot. The titles and file names aren't a match:






Edit: Is it possible that it didn't clear the season and episode when I did the refresh? Episode 1 is defined differently on tvdb than it is on epguides.
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Re: Changeset 960 - tvdb - 2008/03/31 06:45 Is it possible that it didn't clear the season and episode when I did the refresh? Episode 1 is defined differently on tvdb than it is on epguides.
Yes, since the season and episode numbers are already set in your db then it will search using these details, if no match is made with these then it tries again with the episode title. What you have is a conflict of information. The epguides parser works in the same way. To force it to match by title you should multi-edit your season 1 episodes and set the episode to something that doesn't exist, ie. 99. Then when you Refresh it will be forced to match by title since episode 99 does not exist.

According to your log the 'Déjà Vu' episode matched by 71.43%, anything under 75% is not considered a match. It should've simply said no match available but instead just took the first from the list. I'll fix this. Does the epguides parser find the match? Both epguides and TVDb list the episiode as 'Deja Vu', the official Outer Limits site does too!

I'll look into the dates issue.
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Re: Changeset 960 - tvdb - 2008/03/31 09:12 Yes, since the season and episode numbers are already set in your db then it will search using these details
I think for purposes of switching parsers, the best solution is not to do a media refresh but rather to completely remove all the media from the database and then re-scan for it. I've switched back to epguides and when you release a new tvdb parser, that is how I am going to test it.

Does the epguides parser find the match? Both epguides and TVDb list the episiode as 'Deja Vu',
Just tested this and no.. epguides reports "no match". That file needs to be re-named.

I'll look into the dates issue.
Thanks. Sometimes things that seem random are not. That error message made me realize that it only missed the dates on any pre 70s series.
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Re: Changeset 960 - tvdb - 2008/03/31 19:29 Sorry, didn't realise there were two occurences of the date issue.

Now definitely fixed!

File Attachment:
File name: www.TheTVDB_v1.1.zip
File size:4453 bytes
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Re: Changeset 960 - tvdb - 2008/03/31 19:55 Hooray and Hootzah... we have success

Test 1: Update with Epguides and then try wtih tvdb..

No errors and date is there.

Test 2: Media refresh all data to see if it picks up dates...

Works like a champ.

I do believe you have a working parser

Question:

If I delete the title banners because they don't look good right now, is it going to re-download them?
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Re: Changeset 960 - tvdb - 2008/03/31 20:09 If I delete the title banners because they don't look good right now, is it going to re-download them?
Yes, they will be redownloaded.

To remove them you'll have to edit page.php around line 73:

Code:

  if (get_screen_type() == 'NTSC')   if (file_exists($title))     $headings             '<td height="'.convert_y(60).'" align="center">'.img_gen($title,convert_x(1000),convert_y(60)).'</td>';   else     $headings             '<td height="'.convert_y(60).'" align="center"><b>'.$title.'</b> : '.$tagline.' </td>'; else

change to:

Code:

  if (get_screen_type() == 'NTSC')   $headings             '<td height="'.convert_y(60).'" align="center"><b>'.$title.'</b> : '.$tagline.' </td>'; else

The 60 is the height available for the title on an NTSC screen, you'll see that we have 170 for PAL which makes the image half decent. Increasing this 60 will probably make your page too big for the screen. Really don't know what I can do about it
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Re: Changeset 960 - tvdb - 2008/04/01 05:13 What do people think about the idea of quality of tv show metadata. Such that any user modified data would not be over written by a data refresh. I can see each parser beeing given a score.

Lets use integers as the score

No Information: 0
epguides: 300
thetvdb: 1000+number of days since jan 1st 2006 data was last updated.
Manual data: 200000000
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Re: Changeset 960 - tvdb - 2008/04/01 05:48 What do people think about the idea of quality of tv show metadata.
There is no excuse for bad data from TVDB, all users are actively encouraged to sign-up with the site and add/improve any data which is in-complete or incorrect. If our users do this then their contributions will be available for the rest of us.
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Re: Changeset 960 - tvdb - 2008/04/01 06:16 But what if I have a different opinion than someone else.

Neither is right or maybe the consensus is that I am wrong. However on my system I want my data to be authoritative.
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