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RSS Feeds - Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/16 18:48 After applying the Subject changeset.. calls to any menu where the buttons appear at the bottom of the screen result in the following error message being displayed:

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: tvid_code() in C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Simese\Data\base\page.php on line 228

The error message doesn't appear on the actual TV Screen but I lose the buttons at the botton of the screen.
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/16 19:32 I've just submitted the RSS UI, which includes the function that you are missing.

Everything RSS should now be functional

The image and audio feeds work very well, although there are some html encoding issues with some feeds that I've tested (usually Atom feeds). I've also noticed some RSS 2.0 feeds have incorrect item titles and no image. This is due to the parser not reading RSS 2.0 iTunes extensions correctly, I'll be looking into this.
I've not been able to play any video feeds due to my player not supporting the format used (mov, m4v), some manage to play the audio though.

If you find any feeds with other issues then post them here for me to investigate.

Cheers
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/16 19:46 Ok Gotcha.. jumped the gun there I guess

Couple things:

1) Which media search includes the RSS items ..web? I don't often do a full search.

2) Options are given for audio, video, and image. I assume a text news feed would be image?

It might not be a bad idea to include a couple of example items since they can always be removed and/or changed.
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/16 20:07 Any media search will include the RSS feeds. If you don't want to do a full search then selecting Web will do the job.

Yes, for text feeds you should select image.

Here's a couple that I have been testing with:
Image - Dilbert - http://feeds.feedburner.com/tapestrydilbert
Audio - CNET Daily Podcast - http://news.com.com/html/ne/podcasts/daily_podcast.xml
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/16 20:20 Thanks...

Here's an interesting tidbit...

I haven't done a full search in some time but since I wasn't sure about the RSS, I did one and at first I thought the system was hung but apparently it is just going to take a very long time to get through my large photo collection. It appears to be adding/updating information about each photo.

Some past enhancement I was missing out on?
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/16 20:34 The last release (1.19) added IPTC/XMP tag support for photos, there's also Browse by options for them. No-one seemed to notice this even though it's the first on the list of new features on the homepage Player : Netgear EVA700 & Popcorn A-100 (081106)
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/16 20:46 Pernod wrote:
The last release (1.19) added IPTC/XMP tag support for photos, there's also Browse by options for them. No-one seemed to notice this even though it's the first on the list of new features on the homepage

Aw crud .. I did not realize that I needed to re-fresh the database to get the information AAAAARRRGGGHHH no wonder the new browse options didn't appear to add anything new for me.. I just figured I had the wrong photo format or something...
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/16 21:13 With the addition of the RSS Menu Item, the Main Menu now extends more than one page which I don't think is a very good idea for a main menu and something should be combined/eliminated from the Main Menu.

Possible solutions:

1) Make Watch TV an option off "Watch a Video"

2) Make Internet Radio and option off "Listen to Music"

3) Make RSS an option off "Browse the Web"

4) Make the Weather forecast an option off "Browse the Web"

or possibly...

5) Put the Manage Playlists option somewhere else.
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/16 21:30 I don't think is a very good idea for a main menu and something should be combined/eliminated from the Main Menu.
I agree, and I'm sure something will be combined before a release.

What's your initial impression on the RSS implementation?
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/16 22:43 There is a glitch somewhere as the media refresh now just goes on forever... it appears to finish 100% complete but then just keeps on re-freshing the page over and over... the media update light on the player blinking forever.

Edit: I deleted the RSS feeds and the media search completed as one might expect. I will test this as I add them (RSS Feeds) back to see if I can nail this down.
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/16 22:53 Pernod wrote:
What's your initial impression on the RSS implementation?

I don't do impressions .. sorry couldn't resist...

I really like this screen but I don't really like the image/audio tags....



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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/16 22:54 On this screen, Yahoo didn't really give you a great image to work with but the layout is fine...



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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/16 23:44 The actual Feed layout page is really nice but I think the previous and next should be more to the bottom rather than in the middle. What would really be nice is if the screen were split with preview panes of the previous and next on the left with a full screen of the current feed.


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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/16 23:56 Pretty awful image that Swiss gives us but I am thrilled to see this feed finally working:

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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/17 05:35 Stu2j wrote:
I really like this screen but I don't really like the image/audio tags....


There are some icons (rss_1.png, rss_2.png and rss_3.png) in the images folder that I had intended to use instead of the text "Image" / "Audio"...
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/17 07:06 There are some icons (rss_1.png, rss_2.png and rss_3.png) in the images folder that I had intended to use instead of the text "Image" / "Audio"...
I noticed these icons and tried them. They came out really small when shown to the left of the menu, and really looked crap on the TV. I'll play around with them again later.
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/17 09:24 and really looked crap on the TV

Lol - OK, that's a good enough reason not to use them!
Maybe you (or Stu?) can come up with a range of icons to use instead?

Rob
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/17 11:00 Stu2j wrote:
There is a glitch somewhere as the media refresh now just goes on forever... it appears to finish 100% complete but then just keeps on re-freshing the page over and over... the media update light on the player blinking forever.

Edit: I deleted the RSS feeds and the media search completed as one might expect. I will test this as I add them (RSS Feeds) back to see if I can nail this down.


Ok, I've been testing this and as long as the RSS feed is an image, everything works fine but whenever I try and add a RSS feed that is audio, the media refresh never finishes.
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/17 11:09 Is there anything in the logfile? The audio and video feeds download content to your cache folder. You cache folder folder should have sub-folders rss/feeds and rss/content, these 'should' be created if they don't exist. Player : Netgear EVA700 & Popcorn A-100 (081106)
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/17 12:46 ok.. the only sub directories in the cache folder are for internet radio. There are no RSS sub folders.

I'm attaching the portion of the log where I insert the rss audio (cnet) and then do a media search. The log stops where I take it out. Hope this helps.
File Attachment:
File name: rss.zip
File size:39351 bytes
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/17 13:14 It looks like the media search stops when it tries to download the CNET mp3. Definitely due to missing cache folders.

Can you replace your rss.php with the attached and try again. This should now create the missing folders.
File Attachment:
File name: rss_cache_issue.zip
File size:3159 bytes
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/17 13:41 The actual Feed layout page is really nice but I think the previous and next should be more to the bottom rather than in the middle. What would really be nice is if the screen were split with preview panes of the previous and next on the left with a full screen of the current feed.
Could you post a mock-up of what you mean by the preview panes? It may not be possible due to some feeds being html rather than plain text, and so cannot be easily resized into an area of the page, which is why I let the feed take as much of the page as possible.
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/17 14:20 Pernod wrote:
Can you replace your rss.php with the attached and try again.

OK, this problem appears to be fixed.

Folders created, podcasts added, media refresh running fine.
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/17 14:23 Pernod wrote:
Could you post a mock-up of what you mean by the preview panes? It may not be possible due to some feeds being html rather than plain text, and so cannot be easily resized into an area of the page, which is why I let the feed take as much of the page as possible.

Ok.. take a look at this image. In the top left pane, it would have a caption that says "previous" a short blurb and an image. in the bottom left pane, it would have a caption that says "next" a short blurb and an image. The large right pane would have the current RSS feed info (the actual panes would be divided by lines rather than colors).

Hope this helps explain it.

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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/17 15:50 I think it would take up too much of the screen to make it readable, especially on SD 4:3 screens. There would also be a waste of valuable screen space when the preview panes contain short descriptions. I think the current layout makes the best use of the space available.

I'll try to move the current next/prev to the bottom of the screen and maybe add some coloured text to differentiate it from the actual feed.
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/17 16:35 I can only recommend ..

Another thing that is really needed but I'm not certain where to put it (probably on the main page at the bottom) is a date/time stamp for the last time the rss media was updated.

Edit: Oh.. and there should probably be a button to update/refresh the media directly from that page (not a full media refresh, just a web or something quick).
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/17 17:05 Yep, I agree with those suggestions. Was thinking of a quick button on the main RSS feeds page to update all feeds, and maybe the same on the selected feed page to update individual feeds only. Player : Netgear EVA700 & Popcorn A-100 (081106)
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/17 17:24 Cool... needless to say, I removed the "please select a rss from the list" line and this moved the rss symbol up. While it is fine where it is, seems like the RSS Symbol should be centered on the actual menu (like the Yahoo symbol above).

BTW,

Podcasts work great in conjunction with the now playing screen. Very nice.
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/18 08:02 So it sounds like it is working quite well for you, thanks for testing.

Here's my list of outstanding items that I intend to work on:
1. Display time of last feed update (suggestions on where to put this).
2. Improve parser for iTunes RSS extensions. Currently if an itunes:image is defined in an item then it will overwrite the channel image.
3. Use full Atom contents if available rather than truncating to RSS equivalent.
4. Add buttons to update all/single feeds.
5. Replace Image/Audio/Video tags with icons, or other alternative.
6. Back page is not yet perfect.

Anything else?
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/18 08:51 That sounds about right.

Don't forget to sumbit the fix for creating the folders
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/18 22:12 BTW, Excellent Podcast if you need a laugh....

http://cslu.libsyn.com/rss
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Re: Changeset 948 Error - 2008/03/21 09:46 I now have about 3 pages of RSS feeds/podcasts that I have been playing with and I have noticed that a media refresh of these can take some time. What used to be a quick refresh of movies to add a single title is no longer quick.

You are probably already planning to fix this but just wanted to point out that refreshing the RSS with everything else has slowed things considerably.

I am now using the scheduler (first time btw) to make certain all the rss feeds are updated each morning.
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