Powerline Ethernet Adapter - 2007/02/09 00:49I currently run my ShowCenter wirelessly and it works pretty well but as with any wireless connection there are hiccups esp with video.
Typical wired is not a really good option for my situation but I was thinking of using a couple of these powerline ethernet adapters (they plug into an outlet and use your homes wiring to network).
It sounds like it should work better than wireless (since it would be a wired connection) but I was curious how well these work. Does anyone use these things and do they work well?
Also, if I go this route, I have a four port broadband router that is full and would need another port. What's the best option to get the extra port?
Thanks for any assistance.Showcenters 1000g/200/250HD Popcorn Hour A-100 Netgear HDX101 Powerline Adapters Windows XP Simese 2.07 running latest SVN NAS Server IBM NetVista 900Mhz/256RAM
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Re:Powerline Ethernet Adapter - 2007/02/20 20:56Well, I was really hoping that I might get some opinions on this but I've gone ahead and ordered the powerline adapters. I'll post how it works with the ShowCenter once I get it hooked up. The adapters chosen promise 85Mbps which would be a significant improvement over wireless and should stream video quite nicely if everything works as advertised.
To expand the four port router, I just went with a four port switch (hub) with an uplink. Seems like there should be an easier option but I know this will work and the hubs are really cheap these days.Showcenters 1000g/200/250HD Popcorn Hour A-100 Netgear HDX101 Powerline Adapters Windows XP Simese 2.07 running latest SVN NAS Server IBM NetVista 900Mhz/256RAM
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Re:Powerline Ethernet Adapter - 2007/02/24 10:13This update is complete and it works pretty much as expected. It appears to be somewhere between wired and wireless. Setup was literally pnp as you just plug em in and they start working. There is a setup utility to enable security if you need it and it was really easy to do. The hardest part was freeing an outlet near the router
According the utility provided, I am ranging from about 12mbps to 20mbps which is probably pretty good considering that I am traveling from one side of the house to the other (which is why running cat5 wasn't a great solution).
What I was after here was a stable connection for streaming video and not only did I appear to achieve that but the response of the overall system (menu navigation etc) has improved significantly so I am really pleased with the change.
I always baby step into these things and picked up a couple cheap 85mbps adapters from ebay. I should have probably sprung for the newer 200mbps adapters but everything appears to be working pretty well.
As time passes, I am certain to find problems with running certain electrical appliances etc but as I write this, it is certainly better than wireless for my purposes because while wireless certainly gave acceptable speed, having a dropout at a critical point in a movie just wasn't going over big
Upgrade consisted of two new Airlink Powerline Adapters 85mbps (cat5 included) and one used LinkSys hub. Total Cost: 99.98 including shipping.
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Re:Powerline Ethernet Adapter - 2007/02/24 10:13Ok, lesson number one... ya really don't want to have someone open and close the garage door while watching a movie Showcenters 1000g/200/250HD Popcorn Hour A-100 Netgear HDX101 Powerline Adapters Windows XP Simese 2.07 running latest SVN NAS Server IBM NetVista 900Mhz/256RAM
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Thanks for the feedback on your experiences with the homeplug adapters. I remember reading a review of the new devices available on the market in last month's PC-Pro and they did mention that the newer ones don't suffer from dropouts due to sudden surges of demand like a kettle being switched on/off. So maybe if you're desperate to open that garage door whilst watching a movie(!?!)...
Incidently, I also found a wired connection to be much better than a wireless one. I used to use a 54g wireless bridge to my showcenter 1000, but when I pluged in a wired ethernet cable I was so pleased with the improvement (in terms of response times) that I'd never go back to a wireless solution again.
Rob Player : Pinnacle Showcenter 200 (wired ethernet) Server : HP MediaSmart EX470 NAS (Windows Home Server / Sempron CPU / 2Gb RAM / 2.0 Tb Storage).
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Re: Re:Powerline Ethernet Adapter - 2007/05/10 14:43admin wrote: I remember reading a review of the new devices available on the market in last month's PC-Pro and they did mention that the newer ones don't suffer from dropouts There is simply no question IMO that when it comes to streaming video, wired is the only way to go.
I always "baby step" into these things so I went for the inexpensive route to try it out . I really like this solution better than attempting to run cable and (as you pointed out) the new 200mbps HD adapters are supposed to be not only faster but provide a more solid/stable connection.
I'm trying to snag some of these (as well as a ShowCenter 200) on ebay at a bargain. I'll let ya'll know how they work out but one thing is certain, I'll not be going back to wireless...Showcenters 1000g/200/250HD Popcorn Hour A-100 Netgear HDX101 Powerline Adapters Windows XP Simese 2.07 running latest SVN NAS Server IBM NetVista 900Mhz/256RAM
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Re: Re:Powerline Ethernet Adapter - 2007/05/20 11:16I finally snagged a set of Netgear HD 200mbps powerline adapters and have been putting them through the paces and all I can say is:
These aren't cheap but if you can't run Cat5, here is your answer. It is just as good. System is just as responsive as if it were wired directly and Video streaming is rock solid without any interference.
Now I am definitely going to snatch more Showcenters as I will be able to place them anywhere.
Here's a report from the Utility.. first number is TX, second is RX
Office PowerlineHD Local 200 200 May 21 Showcenter PowerlineHD Remote 42 32 May 21
Given that wireless has a top speed of 54mbps.. not too shabby..
Update 08/08/07... I use my ShowCenter a LOT and since I started using these adapters I have not had a single video hiccup.. not one.
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Re: Re:Powerline Ethernet Adapter - 2007/12/19 14:10Another follow up on this...
The original HD adapters are from one side of the house (server) to the other (ShowCenter) and consistently put up better than 40mbps (no video problems).
However, I just got another ShowCenter so I snagged another HDX101 to hook it up. This one is in the next room and the numbers are consistently above 100mbps .... very nice.
Obviously, placement is a big deal with these things and they continue to work great for me. Showcenters 1000g/200/250HD Popcorn Hour A-100 Netgear HDX101 Powerline Adapters Windows XP Simese 2.07 running latest SVN NAS Server IBM NetVista 900Mhz/256RAM
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Re: Re:Powerline Ethernet Adapter - 2008/12/10 11:59Just another quick comment about wiring with these things and the cost.
I put a powerline adapter in the kids room for the ShowCenter and of course it worked just fine. Then a bulb lit up that I could use that to wire the computer in that room rather than using a wireless connection.
So I purchased a cheap $10 hub/switch. Plugged the ethernet from the powerline adapter into that and then ran a cable to both the ShowCenter and the computer. Then another bulb went off that it would be simple to run the cable from that hub into the next room for another ShowCenter/Computer.
How does this single powerline adapter handle the load? Just fine.
For me, it was a great option to get service to the other side of the house.Showcenters 1000g/200/250HD Popcorn Hour A-100 Netgear HDX101 Powerline Adapters Windows XP Simese 2.07 running latest SVN NAS Server IBM NetVista 900Mhz/256RAM
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Re: Re:Powerline Ethernet Adapter - 2008/12/10 12:05So I purchased a cheap $10 hub/switch. Plugged the ethernet from the powerline adapter into that and then ran a cable to both the ShowCenter and the computer. Then another bulb went off that it would be simple to run the cable from that hub into the next room for another ShowCenter/Computer.
How does this allocate IP addresses? I would expect all devices connected to a single powerline adaptor to have the same IP.Player : Netgear EVA700 & Popcorn A-100 (081224) Server : Vista SP1 Home Premium (Simese 2.06, SwissCenter current SVN) Spec : Intel C2Q Q6600, 2GB RAM, 2Tb storage.
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Re: Re:Powerline Ethernet Adapter - 2008/12/10 12:15Pernod wrote: So I purchased a cheap $10 hub/switch. Plugged the ethernet from the powerline adapter into that and then ran a cable to both the ShowCenter and the computer. Then another bulb went off that it would be simple to run the cable from that hub into the next room for another ShowCenter/Computer.
How does this allocate IP addresses? I would expect all devices connected to a single powerline adaptor to have the same IP. The powerline adapter is just a pass-thru, everything has its own IP address from the DHCP router. In fact, I can identify each media player in the client's discovered. Works like a champShowcenters 1000g/200/250HD Popcorn Hour A-100 Netgear HDX101 Powerline Adapters Windows XP Simese 2.07 running latest SVN NAS Server IBM NetVista 900Mhz/256RAM
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ich habe in meinem Netzwerk 4 Powerline Adapter von DEVOLO (DLAN 200 AVEASY), dadurch wurden bei mir der Router (FritzBox 7170) 2 * Showcenter und die restlichen Rechner verbunden. Meine Erfahrungen sind nur positiv, die Datenübertragungsrate laut Devolo Informer liegt bei 83-113Mbit/s. Wichtig: die Geräte nicht an einer Mehrfachsteckdose anschließen, die häufig ein / ausgeschaltet wird, das führt dazu, dass dieser Adapter sehr lange benötigt, um die anderen Adapter zu finden. Schaltet man z.B. den Showcenter stromlos (Hauptschalter), geht der Adapter in einen Stromsparmodus, aus dem heraus er nachher sehr schnell wieder Kontakt zu den anderen Adaptern aufnehmen kann. Ich brauche jetzt keine Leitungen im Haus verlegen und mich auch nicht mehr um ein gesichertes WLan kümmern, im großen und ganzen eine ganz hervorragende Angelegenheit.
Stu2j schrieb: For me, it was a great option to get service to the other side of the house.
==> Kann ich nur bestätigen.
Gruß Udo
Tschuldigung, aber Englisch kann ich immer noch nicht schreiben.Player: Shwocenter 250HD; Showcenter 200 Server Software: Linux Ubuntu 8.10 und Swisscenter Server Hardware: MSI AXIS 700 mit 1GB Hauptspeicher und 1,6 TB Festplatte Netzwerk: Powerline von DEVOLO
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Re: Re:Powerline Ethernet Adapter - 2008/12/31 11:20Translation (provided by Google):
I have in my network 4 Powerline adapter DEVOLO (dLAN 200 AVEASY), it was for me the router (FritzBox 7170) 2 * ShowCenter and the remaining computer. My experience can only be positive, according to the data transfer rate Devolo Informer is at 83-113Mbit / s. Important: the devices are not in a multiple outlet, often on / off, the result is that these adapters very long time required to get the other adapters to be found. Turns you e.g. ShowCenter energized the (main desk), the adapter into a power saving mode, from which he very quickly after contact with the other adapters can absorb. Now I need no wires in the house and embarrassed me not to worry about a secure wireless, on the whole a very good question.
I can only confirm
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